He hated being called boss; but, he was a great one. When I was a very young Warden at El Reno, he encouraged me, challenged me, and often did not provide answers for me letting me figure it out for myself. I learned a great deal from him, so much about people, so much on how to treat people, and so much on what to expect from people. He lived his life each day as a treasure from God. He challenged all of us to do the same.