Kurt Cobain

so what do you think? Has Cobain commited suicide or was he murdered? as far as I know final decision was not supported by reliable proofs

Did you know that Kurt Cobain mentioned Freddy Mercury (sic) in his suicide note? Weird eh. Text and link below. tim - - - - - - - To Boddah pronounced Speaking from the tongue of an experienced simpleton who obviously would rather be an emasculated, infantile camplainee. This note should be pretty easy to understand. All the warnings from the punk rock 101 courses over the years. Since my first introduction to the, shall we say, ethics involved with independence and the embracement of your community has proven to be very true. I haven't felt the exitement of listening to as well as creating music along with reading and writing for too many years now. I feel guilty beyond words about these things. For example when we're backstage and the lights go out and the manic roar of the crowd begins it doesn't affect the way in which it did for Freddy Mercury who seemed to love and relish in the love and adoration from the crowd. Which is something I totally admire and envy. The fact is I can't fool you. Any one of you. It simply isn't fair to you or me. The worst crime I can think of would be to rip people off by faking it and pretending as if I'm having 100% fun. Sometimes I feel as if I should have a punch in time clock before I walk out on stage. I've tried everything within my power to appreciate it, and I do. God, believe me I do but it's not enough. I appreciate the fact that I and we have affected and entertained a lot of people. I must be one of one of those narcissists who only appreciate things when they're gone. I'm too sensitive. I need to be slightly numb in order to regain the enthusiasm I once had as a child. On our last three tours I've had a much better appreciation for all the people I've known personally and as fans of our music, but I still can't get over the frustration, the guilt and empathy I have for everyone. There's good in all of us and I think I simply love people too much. So much that it makes me feel too fucking sad. The sad little, sensitive, unappreciative, pisces Jesus man! Why don't you just enjoy it? I don't know. I have a goddess of a wife who sweats ambition and empathy and a daughter who reminds me too much of what I used to be. Full of love and joy kissing every person she meets because everyone is good and will do her no harm. And that terrifies me to the point to where I can barely function. I can't stand the thought of Frances becoming the miserable self-destructive, death rocker that I've become. I have it good, very good, and I'm grateful, but since the age of seven I've become hateful towards all humans in general. Only because it seems so easy for people to get along, and have empathy. Empathy! Only because I love and feel for people too much I guess. Thank you all from the pit of my burning nauseous stomach for your letters and concern during the past years. I'm too much of an erratic, moody baby! I don't have the passion anymore and so remember, its better to burn out than to fade away. peace, love, empathy. Kurt Cobain Frances and Courtney, I'll be at your alter. Please keep going Courtney For Frances For her life which will be so much happier without me. I Love you. I love you!

Yep, and of course we all know Dave Grohl's adoration for the band - I would never have picked Nirvana as Queen nuts, but there we are. Cobain was a self-indulgent prat really, although obviously it's highly possible depression was talking through him.

lots of people seem depressed these days. i have just joined a band, one of the band members, the drummer, casually dropped into conversation about how he's on anti depressants and how they make him a bit 'high', which threw me a bit, i thought that wasn't really the sort of thing for casual conversation. and in america they give out anti depressants like smarties.... feeling low? take prozac! it's advertised just like any other product, like asprin. makes me angry for those who really are depressed, their predicamen is made light of.

I don't think Kurt Cobain was self indulgent or self centered. I think he was extremely caring, loved his wife, and his daughter - and he suffered for it. I also don't believe he killed himself. Nor do I believe that Courtney's bassist accidentally died by an overdose while her U-Haul was packed the night before she was leaving Courtney's band "Hole".

And for anyone who is interested in the real truth, check out www.justiceforkurt.com

Well his own wife has since said that he was a bit of wanker - I guess she'd know. And his suicide note is narcissism from beginning to end - he even makes reference to this himself. Again you'd have to subtract the depression, if he really suffered from it - there's not much that's worse. And no thanks to the truth-about-Kurt site - I'm still getting over the fact that nobody landed on the moon and that Big Bird shot JFK.

As an aside, if anybody on the group suffers from depression, or knows somebody who does, I'd highly recommend Andrew Solomon's "The Noonday Demon". Nothing else written on depression in the general reading area comes close.

[sallow tlen]: "I don't think Kurt Cobain was self indulgent or self centered. I think he was extremely caring, loved his wife, and his daughter - and he suffered for it. I also don't believe he killed himself. Nor do I believe that Courtney's bassist accidentally died by an overdose while her U-Haul was packed the night before she was leaving Courtney's band "Hole"." Yeah and NASA never really landed on the moon, and Paul really is dead ....

[Tina Mars]: "As an aside, if anybody on the group suffers from depression, or knows somebody who does, I'd highly recommend Andrew Solomon's "The Noonday Demon". Nothing else written on depression in the general reading area comes close." I can't imagine anything as depressing as reading books about depression (but am happy to be porved wrong !).

I don't suffer from depression ('though I came mighty close in the QMS days). I couldn't put the book down. A friend of mine said the same thing about a book on addiction. I think they were having a lend.

[sallow tlen]: "And for anyone who is interested in the real truth, check out www.justiceforkurt.com" Oh, well, that sounds like a 100% proven informationally correct website!